# Speaker Impedance with QA403 + QA461

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**Created:** [April 29, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873 "2023-04-29T17:18:31Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/141 "2024-06-12T22:35:19Z")

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With any quality loudspeaker the change in the driver after running should be very little. As you have shown, there will not be enough change to affect the box design in any way. The days of needing to break in a driver are 20 years and more ago, or with very inexpensive drivers.

Mark

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 8:53am UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/142 "2024-06-13T08:53:16Z")

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Thank You Mark, i keep that in Mind 😉

BTW i got an Massage from UPS some Devices are on the way from Saelig! 🙂  
Let see what i get next Day from the ordered Devices (Order QA472, QA451B, QA461 (462) still open)  
I guess the first Both 😉

Have a nice Day

Robert

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/143 "2024-06-13T16:39:58Z")

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Found an nice Device for the Analyzer Enclousure Build.

 ![Attenuator 2x 24 Step](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/a/abf02c793cb7bc866222a25d92a9c0ca42a8ea14.jpeg)

Have this Attenuator lying around with 10KOhm in Stereo and 24 Stepps.  
Need to measure it but i guess it has -3,2dB per Stepp.  
So i could use it also Differential up too -73dB Log  
Every stepp only one resistor in serie, one Parallel.

Probably this one: but my is already more than 15 Years old and now time to use it 😉

[https://www.don-audio.com/Elma-A4-Audio-Rotary-Switch-Series-Type-SMT-10k-Thin-Film-Audio-Resistors-4-Wafers](https://www.don-audio.com/Elma-A4-Audio-Rotary-Switch-Series-Type-SMT-10k-Thin-Film-Audio-Resistors-4-Wafers)  
But no thinfilm Resistors and was only around 160€ with normal 1% Welwyn Resistors.  
from THEL Audioworld.

Measurements all Stepps Loopback Chanel L Out to In Single Ended:

 ![ELMA 24Stepp Atten](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/c/c770cce0c1e5609329fcd723c91fd57d6d601dc3.jpeg)

And here some Noise Measurings @ -20dB, -40dB and -60dB:

 ![-19.48dB](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/e/e57ca4671a4a9ef3c2d09d38bd44804909283cfe.jpeg)  
 ![-39.35dB](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/b/b59e1b5827b14b15a109331ef47d039bbf7624a7.jpeg)  
 ![-60.09dB](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/1/14dda03fa5a25766733476e1ad38cb35211e0f14.jpeg)  
New Picture (2024.06.15)

One newbe question:  
Why the Noise Numbers didn’t show as negative Numbers ? Like THD.

Means it:  
Signal is @ -20dB, Noise is 81,87dB away from it? and not @ -81,87dB right?

I guess for better Noise Measurings would be good to add after the Attenuator an descend Amplifier to get the Signal back to 0dBV right? -20dB Atten. then +20dB gain Amp and so on right?  
Also no intefearence with Input Impedance i guess.  
I can do it next days, got already the Cosmos APU.  
It has an decsend Amplifier in it +34dB and +60dB

But i ordered Cabeladapters, i hope i get them next day from Amazon 😉

And Pssst 😉 QA472 and QA451B is incomming @ Monday AM.  
Than i could do some Tests with my Class D Hypex Amps NC122MP and NC250MP.

Robert

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/144 "2024-06-14T17:26:13Z")

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> [@Frunse](#):
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> Why the Noise Numbers didn’t show as negative Numbers ? Like THD.
> 
> Means it:  
> Signal is @ -20dB, Noise is 81,87dB away from it? and not @ -81,87dB right?

Hi. “SNR” Tile is not the noise but the signal-to-noise ratio. If you want to display the noise, you have to select the “N-D dBV” tile, and you will see that if you select it, the noise will be expressed by a negative dB number.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/145 "2024-06-14T17:34:10Z")

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Thx, i will try it next day.

It means Noise - Distortion right?

Robert

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> [@Frunse](#):
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> Thx, i will try it next day.
> 
> It means Noise - Distorsion right?

Yes. But it is actually the measurement of only the noise in the analyzed signal, while the “N+D” tile measures the noise component plus the distortion component of the analyzed signal.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 9:25am UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/147 "2024-06-15T09:25:13Z")

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Hello,  
Replaced the Mesurings for N-D and looks much better 😉

But at the End it gives the same SNR Numbers:  
-105db N-D +20dB Gain =85dB SNR  
-114dB N-D +40dB Gain = 74dB SNR  
-118dB N-D +60dB Gain = 58dB SNR  
Right ?

The 50Hz Spike is a bit worse, may be Shielded Wire would Help.  
This 50 Hz Spike happen every time i didn’t measure Differential!  
I guess it cals Comman Mode Error or so right?  
Tested my Cosmos APU and if i measure it Single Ended i get this Spike @ 50 Hz and if i use Differential input i didn’t see it.  
Like Here:

 ![COSMSOS APU 1kHz Notch FIlter Differential In Single ended Out](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/2/23dc7fdf3aff785e9b1a14ddccb95f3f2db77f89.jpeg)  
Lesson Learned 😉

Question to the Experts!:  
Will an Isolation transformer (230V) Help For an DUT? For the Common Mode Problem?  
Something like this may be:

 ![71Wvd2KBAGL.AC_SL1500](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/d/d6b517e97b530ed0e1b206cf2de37235d752b1b9.jpeg)

In combination with Mains Filtering or so?

Any Sugestions or the only way is to measure Differential?

 ![IMG_20240615_111725_4](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/0/01e4183f493b9a0812798d956266cee41ceb25a4.jpeg)

Robert

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 10:09am UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/148 "2024-06-15T10:09:35Z")

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> [@Frunse](#):
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> Hello,  
> Replaced the Mesurings for N-D and looks much better 😉
> 
> But at the End it gives the same SNR Numbers:  
> -105db N-D +20dB Gain =85dB SNR  
> -114dB N-D +40dB Gain = 74dB SNR  
> -118dB N-D +60dB Gain = 58dB SNR  
> Right ?
> 
> The 50Hz Spike is a bit worse, may be Shielded Wire would Help.

Hi Frunse. Of course they must be the same numbers! SNR= 20log(S/N) which by the properties of logarithms (using the expressions of the various terms in dB) becomes: SNR = S - N. From which:  
N= S - SNR, where N corresponds to N-D.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/149 "2024-06-15T13:43:42Z")

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> [@Frunse](#):
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> Will an Isolation transformer (230V) Help For an DUT? For the Common Mode Problem?

Hi, at this link you will find useful information on minimizing induced noise in measurements made with the QA40x.

> **[Measurement-with-the-QA401.pdf](https://hifisonix.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Measurement-with-the-QA401.pdf)**
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An isolation transformer will hardly solve these problems, since there are many different ways to introduce these disturbances (radiated mode and conducted mode, capacitive coupling and inductive coupling, etc.). In any case, the one in the figure is not an isolation transformer, but a VARIAC that does anything but isolate.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/150 "2024-06-15T13:50:46Z")

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Hi yes wrong Picture 😉 i mean this LOL:

 ![71Wvd2KBAGL.AC_SL1500](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/d/d6b517e97b530ed0e1b206cf2de37235d752b1b9.jpeg)

So probably good to use an Battery (Akkumulator) for INUC, USB Hub and QA Devices if its Possible.

DUT like an 1000Watt Amp won’t be possible by sure but for DAC and Smal signal Analogue Circuit Measuring wil be.

Robert

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/151 "2024-06-20T13:55:24Z")

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Some more work on the Enclousure.  
for  
QA403  
QA472  
QA451B  
QA462 (If released)  
QA455 (If released)

 ![Baugruppenträger_3D_B](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/3/39cde2a8e93b2aa749f091e158119f482bb5b36d.jpeg)

On the Left you see the Digital Out Interface  
On Bottom of the QA403 i will integrade my little Monacor Amp with 40Watt In and Outs

Robert

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/152 "2024-06-22T16:26:23Z")

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Test this Day my QA451B with 2 Amps and got good Results and also i guess found an Bug, not sure.  
First THD+N for MONACOR AKB-60 (45Watt amp not Moded)

 ![THD+N vs Power External Resistor](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/e/e545056e7b9ab08ef4fd7ab81b417bdfe870339b.jpeg)

Second DENON POA 800 (my oldest Amp 😉 )

 ![THDN vs Power 8Ohm](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/8/85754b26baaa1fde7fc7bc74bc28460657bb6e28.jpeg)

So now about the Bug (guessing)

If i start the Automated Mesurement PWRTHDvsPower i need to type a value @ this field:  
Input Level Range Adder (dB)  
But if i want to use the Full range let say at 42dB and try to type 42 there  
he dont start the Measuring and give me advice to not type more than 30dB there ??? Why???

 ![PWRTHDvsPower bug](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/c/cc3f691edb7c0e3cb7de67d7b286b5d343569ce8.jpeg)

May be i need to use an newer Software Version for QA403

Robert

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/153 "2024-06-22T17:13:11Z")

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> [@Frunse](#):
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> So now about the Bug (guessing)
> 
> If i start the Automated Mesurement PWRTHDvsPower i need to type a value @ this field:  
> Input Level Range Adder (dB)  
> But if i want to use the Full range let say at 42dB and try to type 42 there

Hi. That field is not related to the input attenuator setting value, but to the value to be added so that the input attenuator (which in this test is handled automatically since “Autoset Input Range” is selected) maintains the distance of that value in dB from the signal produced by the amplifier on the load.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/154 "2024-06-22T17:22:30Z")

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Oh man, now i understand 😉

So if i want to have on Input and headroom add of +12db.  
He will automaticaly use the Input Value +12dBV away from Signal right?

With External Load Resistors:

 ![THD+N vs Power External Resistor_new](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/f/f16c03cfdeb02b9fd1cfb9a8f1d7674f0c1ebacc.jpeg)

Looks better now

Also with the Internal Load of QA451B:

 ![THD+N vs Power QA451B_new](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/0/058f45dc0e8ef11dce458013dcee1c26fbfdb0bd.jpeg)

The AKB-60 has an TDA7294 in, so an well known Device.

But the Resistors get really fast Hot to 60° for this Measuring and switched off automaticaly!  
You can see it on the red Trace the last Measurpoint the Load was already OFF.

Anyway i will move it in an other Enclousure may be i can add some Thermal Pads and a nice Aluminium Heatsink from both Side to get some more seconds of running Time 😉

The whole Enclousure is from Alluminium so may be it is enough to conect the topp and bottom of the PCB (with Thermal Pads) to the Enclousure

How about this Heatsink Design 😉

 ![QA451B Motherboard with Heatsink](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/2/2435ed7205fc9f55705df890d9e7b933f1e4a315.jpeg)  
 ![QA451B Motherboard with Heatsink Back](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/1/181d8b32672c85597711508050503de7a5371b19.jpeg)

With QA462 on Bottom (Not yet released) may be also cooling the Power Amp there 😉

 ![QA451B Motherboard with Heatsink and QA462 on Bottom](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/d/d57db62ea8a5d76126f4f20b43c77ec0752d9d54.jpeg)

 ![Einschub QA462_QA451B_New_Front](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/f/f8af579b2d420524c6505d71c414fe746ca81727.jpeg)  
 ![Einschub QA462_QA451B_new](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/7/7c0b117aa9c386167d6ede34f4771b0ac39d66fa.jpeg)

Robert

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.quantasylum.com/t/speaker-impedance-with-qa403-qa461/873/155 "2024-06-23T15:29:39Z")

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After building me an XLR to BNC Adapter i was able to make an Compare on the Monacore Amp between Single Ended and XLR Input with an little Suprise, but may be i am doing something wrong!?

 ![THD+N vs Power External Resistor_XLR vs Single Ended](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/c/c28a038d0f5823742a49c964e821b38683859228.jpeg)

XLR seems to be 10dB in THD+N Worse than Single Ended but i was sugesting it will be better ???

One Question: i get 6dB More Output Level on XLR right?

I setup the Input to -12dB and the Output to -6dB but not sure if i doing right.  
I guess +6dB would be better but this don’t changed the THD+N value in General.

 ![XLR Input Value](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/7/7e3bd6a72c471660332392d2f9fdc7bf74c6ef8f.jpeg)

Also getting an Errormassage after the Measuring ands and the Value adds to the Graph’s.  
But cant see where the Overload happen ??? I used the External Resistor Load!

 ![Errormassage](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/5/5f6f36d9cb2e91a456e98bab3cb9c58aa59d4323.jpeg)

Robert

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> [@Frunse](#):
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> But cant see where the Overload happen ??? I used the External Resistor Load!

Hi. The fact that you are using external resistors has nothing to do with the overload that is occurring on the amplifier. You are probably using an input signal to the amplifier (DUT) that is overloading it. If I may take the liberty of giving you some advice: read the QA403 manual that will help you a lot. You can find it in “Help” “Open User’s Manual PDF”

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What i am not understand is the Attenuator is at 30dBV and PK VRMS was max @ 14,61 Vrms.  
@ 30dBV you can Measure till 31Vrms on QA403 Imputs so how this could be an Overload?  
QA403 Output has 500 mvRMS so is this Error related to QA403 Inputs or to the Amp Inputs?

I will Check the Manual but i guess this Erro is measument dependent so i need to look @ QA Wiki for this kind of Measuring.

@ same Power (1Watt 8,35Ohm) the Differential looks also worse on the lower Side off 1kHz Signal (i guess an Design error or because the XLR Conector are directly next to Mains Conector, that i would never build ilke this 😉 )

 ![Mains next to XLR](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/5/519959fec63b76f8a97fead0cc2e54a4205bc656.jpeg)

![Both Inputs Compared 1Watt 8.35Ohm|620x499](upload://

 ![Both Inputs Compared 1Watt 8.35Ohm](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/1/1ea2d5ac6c5756662629a66dbce88f03b3e90ae5.jpeg)

I like the QA403 a lot 😉

Next Step: AKB-60 Moded! and without Enclousure and no Powerplug next to XLR Input 😉

 ![IMG_20240624_195228_6](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/0/01a2a142b1aa0e61ee33dd03fffeae099a80d211.jpeg)

Amplitude before:

 ![Frequenci Amplitude Chirp -20dBV](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/2/2c4353b78dcc19f764a6589a672f5523d2e67b17.png)  
-0,3dB from 60kHz to 23kHz  
-1,25dB from 20Hz  
After:  
 ![AKB-60 Moded Frequenzy Response 1 Watt](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/e/e854f6195ef997284af4a973619839f95b98e620.jpeg)  
-0,3 dB from 18Hz to 23kHz

THD Compared bevore after:

 ![XLR 1Watt 8.35Ohm Moded Comparing](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/7/798bb5c1529720f8b9eafeadb55a910b083ee77e.jpeg)

THD with Mod and without Enclousure looks Better but more Noise @ THD+N i guess  
But the Graph looks Cleaner may be an other Powersupply and no Diodes (NO AC) on the PCB  
would help a lot. I will Change this also next.

Robert

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Ok Guys like i told now the last Test with this little Amp 😉  
Removed the AC from PCB and Connected directly to an Lab Powersupply.

 ![IMG_20240625_190339_6](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/2/2984d21b25a2d1d979f9150b13e0f427d6a487ce.jpeg)  
 ![Powersupply](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/b/b3adb9de51ce44676bcccdc3263336c03c2568b6.jpeg)  
±25V (Measured befor on that Amp, AC Transformer 2x 19V 2A)

Frequenzy Response: (No little Peak @ 100Hz anymore!)

 ![AKB-60 Moded wit Lab Powersupply 1 Watt](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/3/38ee38613b5f22f9f4cac6398c3148ba9cf845eb.jpeg)

THD and THD+N Differential now so much better:

 ![XLR 1Watt 8.35Ohm Lab Powersupply no AC](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/5/5752a726a43b1e368fb3c5e746c049e28e4a7195.jpeg)  
before:  
 ![XLR 1Watt 8.35Ohm Moded cap changed from 22uF to 100uF witout Enclousure](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/e/e3abc69348d8fe85565e1a0b148d459ff77f86e4.jpeg)

 ![THD+N vs Power 8,35Ohm Powersupply no AC](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/2/228ed39b7486d4e652d37238ee03834a38744792.jpeg)

before:

 ![THD+N vs Power External Resistor_XLR vs Single Ended](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/c/c28a038d0f5823742a49c964e821b38683859228.jpeg)

So now i go for this Linear Regulated Powersupply for this Amp:  
[https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/linear-regulated-psu/lv1084-20v-5a-dual-controlled-linear-power-supply-module-p-8426.html](https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/linear-regulated-psu/lv1084-20v-5a-dual-controlled-linear-power-supply-module-p-8426.html)  
2x LT1083 up to 7,5A Regulator 😉

Any Suggestion what i could do better here??? Adding Mains Filter Probably?

For the INUC and USB Hub and all QA USB devices i will use this PSU for Mains and also an big switch with 2 4mm Connector for 12V Battery Supply for in Car Measuring.  
[https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/diy-kits-and-boards/audiophonics-psu-s4-hp-linear-power-supply-module-dc-micrel29752-p-10435.html](https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/diy-kits-and-boards/audiophonics-psu-s4-hp-linear-power-supply-module-dc-micrel29752-p-10435.html)

Robert

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Hallo Mat could you provide me the Color code for youre Front Plates?

My brother in law could do the Powder Coating and an friend of my could Digital Print it like you, or Laser engrave it.

like here: (Laser Engraved)

 ![IMG_20230814_165501_3](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/3/3ef0b682c4f271dddee8585fea520fc66beec4ee.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_20230814_165759_2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/d/d90f3ea3285fde49c8ba35d5e0e29bbb437478b4.jpeg)

The Digital Print dont realy works good on Plain Aluminium Plates so Powder Painting comes Handy 😉 And why not Red 😉

It could look like this 🙂

 ![Baugruppenträger_3D_B](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/8/85b8c57e9e62ca570ebb6ccb4a415dc6cabfed38.jpeg)

Back Side: only some USB and one Network Connector (XLR kind of Connectors) needed.

 ![Baugruppenträger_3D_B_Back](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/3/36c4440f3179c204cfe2370ed8809e6a293162a7.jpeg)

On the Left side: Battery 12V input, and Switch between Mains 12V and Battery 12V Powering.  
On the Right: AMP secondary Output, Parallel to the Front.  
On the Middle the Mains Connector with Mainsfiltering.

Some more Impressions:

 ![Baugruppenträger_3D_B_Back without Plate](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/2/26c9303d5641b7f0d5343537f582a4255d371897.jpeg)

 ![Baugruppenträger_3D_B_Inside_The Amp](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/uploads/quantasylum/original/2X/b/b223509fb58dcac964c5abcc080108abcb79da46.jpeg)

Can’t wait to start Building it 🙂  
But the Powersupplys will send to me first next week, if all goes the right way.

Robert

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> Hallo Mat could you provide me the Color code for youre Front Plates?

It’s Cardinal T241-RD129

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